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Australian “Theropod” Sightings and the Relict Dromornithid Hypothesis


Image paste-up showing two depictions and a skeleton of the large Anseriform relative Dromornis; I also included a depiction of the  dromornithid Genyornis due to the fact that Aboriginal traditions and other evidence has indicated a late survival for this species.

While messaging a fellow cryptozoological researcher (whose excellent blog can be found here) about sightings of alleged dinosaur-like animals a few days ago, I was reminded of a hypothesis I had formulated a few years ago. This hypothesis was that some of the reports of theropod dinosaur-like animals from Australia could possibly entail a relict species of large, flightless bird belonging to the clade Dromornithidae. The theropod-like bipeds reported in Australia are known by names such as  ‘Kooleen’ or ‘Burrunjor,’ and are often allegedly seen in areas of small human population and bountiful wilderness such as Arnhem land.1 While I now think that a large portion of these sightings (if they are taken to be reliable) could be inspired by encounters with large monitor lizards that are momentarily standing on their hind limbs, other reports which entail quickly running bipeds leaving three-toed tracks suggest that a relict dromornithid may still be in the Australian bush. It’s extremely likely that these reports do not entail relict theropod dinosaurs, but it is arguable that a dromornithid could possibly act like, and thus be mistaken for, such an animal. One species of the Dromornithidae clade named Dromornis stirtoni stood up to ten feet tall and weighed 500kg, putting it on par with the giant moas of New Zealand.2 These flightless Australian birds had massive hind legs, deep lower jaws, and stubby wings, yet were relatives of the Anseriformes (waterfowl).2  Many paleontologists feel that the size and shape of their beaks and skulls suggest that these birds were carnivores, and biomechanical studies indicate that they were powerful runners.2 Therefore, there is plenty of evidence which suggests that a descendant of Dromornis stirtoni may exhibit behaviors and a physical appearance which could be interpreted as similar to that of a theropod dinosaur. But what evidence, other than reports, suggests that these birds may still be roaming the Australian bush? Dale Drinnon has previously pointed out that large, bird-like tracks and the alleged discovery of apparently fresh eggs (which were reportedly as large as those of Aepyornis maximus) suggest birds which are around ten to fifteen feet tall, although the age of these is not certain and most of this alleged evidence (except for some examples of cast tracks) is not available for scrutiny.3 These three-toed tracks are often found in conjunction with reports of calves being stolen, which further indicates the presence of a large, predatory bird species behind some of the Burrunjor reports.

An example of a three-toed footprint allegedly left by a Burrunjor, being held by Rex Gilroy who claims to have cast it.
Dale Drinnon feels that this is possible evidence for large flightless birds still living in Australia, although he thinks that the apparent size is not truly representational and that the animal’s foot may have skidded. Also, it is evident that the outline of the actual footprint is actually smaller than the whole cast itself, as some plaster has formed around it. A video showing the cast can be viewed here. Please note that while I feel that it is intriguing, I am not necessarily supporting the footprint cast as valid evidence for relict dromornithids.

Below is another form of evidence which I feel supports the possible survival of a dromornithid species. It is an image of aboriginal rock art which shows an animal that looks like a large, flightless bird. I have shared it here in comparison to a reconstruction of Dromornis stirtoni. The art was shown on the Destination Truth Haunted Cave/Burrunjor episode and was noted as possibly depicting a Burrunjor. The host later wrote it off as a possible Thylacine depiction, but I noted its great similarity to a dromornithid with its powerful looking and rounded beak-like mouth, apparent feathers, short and stubby tail, apparent wings, and bird-like legs with three toed feet.

As I mentioned earlier, I think that a majority of Burrunjor reports involve large monitor lizards, as Dale Drinnon has discussed in this excellent article. However, the aforementioned aboriginal rock art and the reports of bipedally running Burrunjors which leave large, three-toed footprints fuel my continued interest in the possibility of dromornithids still surviving in the deep Australian wildernesses. Please note that I am not in full support of this hypothesis, but I simply wanted to lay it out in an article for others to scrutinize.




Loch Ness monster spotted in a Chinese lake?

The ranger of the national park on the Changbai Plateau in China has published photographs in which, he says, you can see a strange creature living in the local lake Tian Chi. Talks about it are going on since 1962.

A man named Xiao Yu noticed an unusual dark object on the surface of the reservoir during his daily walk. He began filming the “monster” until it disappeared under water a few minutes later.

Lake Tian Chi is 4.9 square kilometers on the border of China and North Korea. Sometimes the North Korean military go fishing here on boats, but on the Chinese side, fishing in the lake and unauthorized visits to the park are strictly prohibited. Xiao Yu noted that he had seen boats on the lake more than once and would never have mistook them for a “monster.”

The caretaker’s message caused a stir in the Chinese media and social networks. The fact is that reports of a strange creature in Tian Chi have appeared regularly since 1962. He was nicknamed “the Chinese Loch Ness monster” and made the subject of conspiracy theories.

Biologists declined to comment on what exactly the park employee could see in the photo, because it is difficult to see something  in the picture in detail. They recalled that there are many plausible explanations for the Scottish Loch Ness monster. It can turn out to be both a large eel and periodically floating logs of Scottish pine.

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Bigfoots attacked tourists in the Ozark National Park, Arkansas

Fort Smith native Ellen (not her real name) tells us a thrilling and frightening encounter with Bigfoot in the Ozark National Park – outside Campbell Cemetery on Tuesday night. According to Ellen, she and her husband Robert decided to find a secluded place to live a couple of days far from civilization and even so that numerous tourists were many miles away.

Therefore, they chose the area of ​​the old abandoned Campbell cemetery, where no one had wandered in for about a hundred years. And now, according to Ellen, she and her husband heard something like an animal growl, permeating the air and coming from somewhere in the thicket. After a few minutes, the growl intensified and seemed to be closer.

“It sounded like some hefty creature had found its lunch,” says Ellen.

However, what slightly frightened Ellen was that their dogs, which always bark at the approach of predators, suddenly shrunk, huddled near the tent and began to whine. Then Ellen and Robert, in order to somehow cheer up the dogs, got out of the tent and also began to growl. But the joke failed.

In response to their voices, the growl from the thicket became really aggressive and began to spread around, from which Ellen and Robert realized that there were at least two creatures. Ellen did not even think about some “Bigfoot” and assumed either large wolves, or even bears, when suddenly hefty sticks and stones flew into the tent.

This infuriated Robert and assuming that some hooligans were hiding in the bushes, Robert gave the command to the dogs to teach the offenders a lesson.

“It was the biggest mistake of our life,” says Ellen and begins to cry.

According to her, when the dogs disappeared into the thickets from there, at first the sounds of a struggle were heard, then one of the dogs uttered such a monstrous cry that Ellen had never heard anything like it in her life. After that, everyone began to howl, whine and scream, and pieces of dogs flew towards the tent.

At first, Ellen and Robert thought that these were big stones again, but when they saw that a dog torn in half had been thrown at them, they came into indescribable horror and, leaving everything, rushed to run. Ellen and Robert went to the police first.

The police found a tent and equipment, but there were no pieces of dogs there, so the couple announced that they were crazy. However, friends told Ellen that something similar happened in the national park last month and we just reported about it.

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What aliens are doing at Loch Ness

What connects aliens to the Scottish lake monster? And why did many eyewitnesses say that a mysterious force prevented them from taking photos or videos of this monster? There are no answers to these questions yet.

Loch Ness, located in Scotland, is primarily famous for its mysterious monster, nicknamed Nessie, which according to various theories is either a huge eel, or a seal, or a prehistoric dinosaur. In turn, some associate the appearance of Nessie with the activities of aliens, and not from scratch.

It is true that strange lights or disc-shaped UFOs are regularly seen over Loch Ness, but there is also an eyewitness story about how aliens landed on the shore of the lake. This happened on August 14, 1971, when the eyewitness Jan Ove Sudberg (now deceased) was 23 years old. Early in the morning, between about 8:30 and 9:30 am, he was on the shores of Loch Ness in the Foyers Bay area.

Suddenly he stumbled upon something amazing and it was not a monster. Sudberg saw a clearing ahead, on which stood an unusual large object, shaped like a huge cigar. It was about 10 meters long, and at the top there was something like a cockpit. Near the object were “pilots” – humanoid creatures.

There were three of them and they were dressed in tight suits, similar to diving. When they entered the object and the object then rose high into the air, then Sudberg realized that he was observing aliens. As the ship gained altitude, it began to slowly fly over the hills towards the nearby Loch More Lake.

The story doesn’t end there. Sudberg was not a Scotsman, he came to Loch Ness as a tourist and flew back to his native Sweden shortly after seeing the aliens. And there a new stage in this strange story began. In Sudberg’s house, unusual phenomena began to occur, a poltergeist, he began to receive mysterious phone calls, and later even Men in Black came to him.

Soon Sudberg contacted the British researcher of anomalous phenomena, Ted Holiday, and told him his story. He also complained to him that he could not photograph UFOs and aliens in the photo, although he had a camera with him. He felt as if some force paralyzed his will and did not allow him to do it.

It is curious that Holiday later repeatedly encountered a similar phenomenon from Nessie’s eyewitnesses. All of them, when they saw the monster in the lake, for some unknown reason, either could not photograph it, or tried, but they did not succeed.

He also found out that much earlier eyewitnesses of Nessie faced this phenomenon. On November 12, 1933, eyewitness Hugh Gray captured a photograph of Nessie, which is considered the first 100% authentic photograph of the Loch Ness Monster.

Gray’s photo shows something serpentine floating in the water. However, few people know that when Gray saw this creature in the lake, he took as many as five pictures before it went under water.

However, only one out of five photographs showed the monster, the rest of the negatives for some reason turned out to be empty.

The conclusion seems to be obvious: the monster in Loch Ness is more than just a large eel, it has some powers to protect it, and in some way it is connected with UFOs and aliens.

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